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Yessirov lets the songs out on new EP

If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

This is something that Jeff Gregerson has thought a lot about as he’s made music throughout his life. Gregerson, 33, played first in high school rock and jam bands, and more recently as one half of the Charlottesville-based electronic cello folk act Wes Swing, named for the project’s cellist.

All the while, he’s been writing his own material but keeping it mostly to himself. Sure, plenty of musicians make music for their own ears, but Gregerson kept wondering if his music was the tree falling in the forest with no other audience to hear it. Would it make a sound?

In March, Gregerson, under the moniker Yessirov, released his official solo debut, a three-song EP titled Small Comfort, and began performing live shows of the material.

“It feels weird to have an official debut right now,” says Gregerson, because he doesn’t feel like a new face or an unfamiliar presence in Charlottesville music.

“My whole lifetime of songwriting was available to choose from,” says Gregerson, who laughs when he says he hopes it won’t take him another 33 years to put out three more Yessirov songs.

Small Comfort has been an exercise in learning how and when to let his music go out into the world—to let his tree fall in the proverbial forest where someone is guaranteed to hear it.

When Gregerson composes for Yessirov, he eschews song structures and aims to create a mood, an ambience, to describe an emotion via sound. Lyrics, if there are any, come last, and Gregerson typically choses words not for their meaning (he’s not into sending a message with individual songs), but based on how they sound. In a song he plays in live sets but hasn’t recorded yet, every line ends in an “m” sound so that he can hum the “mmm”s. And with the words he does choose, he rarely repeats them (unless they are chanted or looped).

Gregerson says that one thing he’s learned from playing in Wes Swing is that “a song can be anything you want it to be,” and so he likes “to follow the course of a song like a river—wherever it goes.”

Which is perhaps why it’s taken him so long to finish and release the three songs on Small Comfort. He could work on a song forever, he says, constantly evolving it into new phases, new moods. At some point during the production of the EP, though, he began to understand that he had to loosen his grip on his open-ended songs and release them into the world, conscious of their flaws but also of their strength and beauty, knowing that once they’re out there, they can’t be pulled back in. But he hasn’t let them go entirely.

On the recordings, Gregerson wrote the songs, sang and played guitar, bass and piano; Nora Horn provided vocals, Swing played cello and violin, and Josh Roberts played drums and some electronics and also produced the record. But recently, Gregerson has reworked the seven-and-a-half-minute title track, “Small Comfort,” into a 30-minute continuous electronic piece that he’ll perform solo at the Telemetry Experimental Music Series at The Bridge Progressive Arts Initiative Saturday night. He’ll sing, play guitar and use various electronic synthesizers and a drum machine to widen the scope of the song even more.

That song in particular, Gregerson says, gets at what he’s trying to do with Yessirov. The phrase “small comfort” can mean something small that is comforting, and it can also mean that something is but a small (i.e., not full) piece of comfort. It’s a nod to the importance of taking care of oneself, says Gregerson, before stating what sounds like his manifesto: “It’s okay to acknowledge that this is your only life. Do what you can to make it better for yourself and those around you. And that can look like whatever you want it to be.”

Gregerson hopes people might listen to the three expansive songs on Yessirov’s Small Comfort during life’s meditative moments and find something small, or comforting, or both, to connect with. There’s certainly plenty of opportunity to do so. Says Gregerson, “Nothing would make me happier than to hear someone say, ‘I listened to your music on a walk in nature,’ or ‘I listened on a long drive and it hit home.’”


What’s that name?

Jeff Gregerson had his musical moniker Yessirov before he had any songs to release under the name. Yessirov is a very minor character in Fyodor Dostoyevsky’s The Brothers Karamazov, and Gregerson describes him as “a disgraced military officer whose life has fallen apart.” In the book, the man introduces himself as “Nikolai Ilyich Snegiryov, sir, former captain in the Russian infantry, sir, disgraced by his vices but still a captain. I should have said Captain Yessirov instead of Snegiryov, because it’s only in the second half of my life that I’ve started saying ‘Yessir.’ ‘Yessir’ is acquired in humiliation,” and “unwillingly, God knows. I never used to say it, all my life I never used to say ‘sir.’ Suddenly I fell down and got up full of ‘sirs.’ It’s the work of a higher power.”

Gregerson found the character compelling, and liked the way Yessirov sounded, to boot.

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Launching a movement: Wes Swing leaves it all to interpretation for Upswept

On his first day of college, Wes Swing rented a cello.

There was something about the instrument that called to him. Perhaps it was the vocal quality, its aural proximity to the human voice; perhaps it was the instrument’s ability to express a particularly full range of emotion, with its deep, full lows and intense, airy highs. Perhaps it was the way the cello is played, the embrace of the instrument in order to draw sound from its curved shoulders and round belly, from the strings on its slender neck.

That rented cello wasn’t Swing’s first go-round with a stringed instrument, but it was one he longed for. Growing up in Clifton, Virginia, Swing started playing classical violin, and by age 6, he was performing concerts for his entire school. When he was 12, he picked up a guitar and got into grunge and punk rock.

All that time Swing wanted to be playing cello, but his parents told him that the violin was enough. Swing wonders if his parents’ refusal was some kind of reverse psychology. “They refused me, which I think is the best motivation for kids…” he says, laughing. Intentional or not, it worked, because once Swing picked up the cello, he couldn’t put it down.

Swing currently has an eponymous cello and electro-folk project, Wes Swing, with guitarist and electronic musician Jeff Gregerson; he recently composed music for writer and Invisibilia podcaster Lulu Miller’s reading from her book, “Why Fish Don’t Exist,” and with funding from a New City Arts Charlottesville SOUP grant, Swing and local visual artist Bolanle Adeboye are working on an interactive project, “Now/Now,” where they produce music and visuals of people’s emotional states. Next month, he’ll do a Townes Van Zandt cover show and this summer he’ll compose music as part of Experimental Film Virginia’s summer residency on the Eastern Shore.

This week, at the University of Virginia drama department’s spring dance concert, Swing will perform a cello-and-loop piece that he composed for choreographer Katharine Birdsall’s dance piece, Upswept. Swing says that the 14-minute composition is unlike anything he’s written before.

Upswept began with Birdsall’s desire to work with pattern in movement, her curiosity about how and why movements make the shapes they do. She says that she makes movements first, then discovers the meaning within them over time, preferring to have live music composed for her original pieces, because “with music, you’re given that fresh, in-the-moment relationship. It’s so much more exciting, and the music is subject to all the same things that the dance is when it’s played live.”

A friend suggested she collaborate with Swing, who is also a fan of the live performance. In fact, Swing long shied away from compositional projects because he always wants to perform what he’s written; he has no interest in writing it down then giving it away for another musician to perform.

For Upswept, Swing paid attention to what Birdsall told her dancers—her descriptions of “luffing sails” and “wind blowing on water,” her requests for a certain quality of movement, or interpretive embodiments. Swing knew that a literal interpretation of the dancers’ movements wouldn’t be interesting to him, so he took copious notes and “subconsciously, a musical representation came to match it,” he says.

During rehearsals, the dance adjusted to the music, the music to the dance, eventually coaxing a full merge. “It’s almost like you have to look at it out of your peripheral vision, and feel that energy of the whole, and that’s where the music comes from,” Swing says. “I’ve never written music that way before.”

For all the music Swing makes, it’s hard to believe he nearly quit. “I had this wrist injury, and I realized I only knew myself as a musician and not anything else,” says Swing.

He learned to dance ballet, he started writing short stories and studied French. But once he let go of music, songs started coming in at a rate and intensity that couldn’t be ignored. Realizing he still had something to say, he returned to playing, and when he did, his wrist suddenly got better. Those songs make up the 2017 Wes Swing record And the Heart.

Swing is quick to say that his music—all of his music—comes from his subconscious, from the act of asking himself questions, sitting with his own honest answers and being open to how they manifest in the music. “It goes all places, and I’m glad that I can feel, and so that’s what I want to express” in music, says Swing.

“What I really care about is trying to make something beautiful,” Swing says. “…That tickle up the spine…that feeling is so wonderful. Being alive, that’s the real reason [I make music]. It makes me feel alive.”